COMPLETE ENG [Solo] Within a Budding Grove by Proust - hok

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Re: Eng[Solo] Within a Budding Grove by Proust - hok

Post by Hokuspokus » Thu 7. Jun 2012, 16:54

Tuberous Chairs wrote:I have a blooper for this. I know I should start a bloopers thread but, if I do, how should I upload it?
Oh yes, please share the blooper. You can upload to ge.tt or the french host.

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Re: Eng[Solo] Within a Budding Grove by Proust - hok

Post by Tuberous Chairs » Fri 8. Jun 2012, 21:10

I've started a Bloopers thread in the Small Talk forum.
"why,he used to say to his friends,he used
"for getting a debutante give me Prused""

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Re: Eng[Solo] Within a Budding Grove by Proust - hok

Post by Tuberous Chairs » Thu 28. Jun 2012, 23:35

Section 16 now uploaded: http://ge.tt/1tK6DnJ/v/0
40.7 MB
44.31 mins.
"why,he used to say to his friends,he used
"for getting a debutante give me Prused""

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Re: Eng[Solo] Within a Budding Grove by Proust - hok

Post by Martin Geeson » Fri 29. Jun 2012, 11:06

Excellently done. I love the Balbec parts. I was a lad growing up in Llandudno when I first read Proust and their respective Grand Hotels coalesced in my imagination.

All PL OK

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Re: Eng[Solo] Within a Budding Grove by Proust - hok

Post by Tuberous Chairs » Thu 19. Jul 2012, 23:41

Section 17 now uploaded:
http://ge.tt/1uhVskK/v/0
44.4MB
48.31 mins.

I'm seeing lots of Proustian parallels in my life too.
"why,he used to say to his friends,he used
"for getting a debutante give me Prused""

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Re: Eng[Solo] Within a Budding Grove by Proust - hok

Post by Martin Geeson » Sat 21. Jul 2012, 19:43

Two edits are needed -

At 1:31 you read "crusts" for "crests";

and at 7:06 you began the sentence from "At Combray..." and then restarted it at 7:16 - so need to remove the aborted passage 7:06 through to 7:16.

Otherwise fine.

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Re: Eng[Solo] Within a Budding Grove by Proust - hok

Post by Tuberous Chairs » Mon 30. Jul 2012, 21:37

Section 17 re-uploaded at http://ge.tt/1BN9sFL/v/0
44.3MB
48.24 mins
1.10-1.55 re-recorded with "crests" and the repeated phrase deleted.
Thank you very much for spotting those, Martin. It's appreciated.
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Post by Martin Geeson » Tue 31. Jul 2012, 20:47

Spot checked for edits and confirmed all OK.

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Re: Eng[Solo] Within a Budding Grove by Proust - hok

Post by Tuberous Chairs » Tue 7. Aug 2012, 19:40

Section 18 (the final section of volume 1) uploaded at http://ge.tt/4SK1IfL/v/0
43.0 MB
46.59 mins
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Re: Eng[Solo] Within a Budding Grove by Proust - hok

Post by Martin Geeson » Wed 8. Aug 2012, 14:12

Hi

There are 3 unedited repeats in Section 18:

@36:01 The sentence: "But this time she must have reckoned ... as though to a grown-up person." Repeated in entirety from 36:21.
@41:58 "Oh well, you know ... condescension." Repeated to correct final word quoted.
@43:20 from "Yes, I made a mistake on purpose" to "Baronne d'Ange like that." - repeated from 43:36.

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Re: Eng[Solo] Within a Budding Grove by Proust - hok

Post by Tuberous Chairs » Wed 8. Aug 2012, 23:09

The three offending passages are now edited out. It's ironic that the third was: "Yes, I made a mistake on purpose" but I didn't do them on purpose, honest!
Now uploaded at http://ge.tt/8QAFXjL/v/0
46.20 mins.
If I'm making any egregious errors in pronouncing French names or places feel free to tell me. Apart from a single daytrip to Boulogne 30 years ago I have never actually been to France so my French pronunciation is, erm, not brilliant. One day I will go to Combray-Illiers but my daughter will have to be a few years older.
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Re: Eng[Solo] Within a Budding Grove by Proust - hok

Post by Tuberous Chairs » Thu 9. Aug 2012, 07:49

By the way, I've posted another blooper in the Small Talk thread.
"why,he used to say to his friends,he used
"for getting a debutante give me Prused""

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Re: Eng[Solo] Within a Budding Grove by Proust - hok

Post by Martin Geeson » Thu 9. Aug 2012, 20:52

Hi

Now marked PL OK.

The only name which has made me positively wince so far was a couple of sections back when you took the final s from the Baron de Charlus. Definitely a hissing sound is called for when he returns - Sharr-L/i ɡʁɛk/ SS.

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Re: Eng[Solo] Within a Budding Grove by Proust - hok

Post by Tuberous Chairs » Mon 20. Aug 2012, 23:16

Good job I asked. I really couldn't get away with mispronouncing him throughout! I think I was assuming that it would be like the silent S in Camus. Apparently the French are divided on whether Charlus should be pronounced with or without a final s but "le plupart" pronounce it with and Neville Jason and John Rowe's versions do too. I've tried re-recording the offending clause (Section 12 around 14.57) but the difference in sound between the recordings makes it stick out jarringly. (I think my latest recordings have a worse sound quality. I don't know if it's the microphone, the computer or the recording levels). I'll certainly put a final s on in future occurrences of the Baron's name and I may come back to Section 12 later but, for the time being, I think we'll have to let that mispronunciation through. Sorry.
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Re: Eng[Solo] Within a Budding Grove by Proust - hok

Post by Tuberous Chairs » Sun 7. Oct 2012, 18:24

Section 19 uploaded at
http://ge.tt/2Vih33P/v/0
33.1MB
36.15mins.
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Re: Eng[Solo] Within a Budding Grove by Proust - hok

Post by Martin Geeson » Sun 7. Oct 2012, 20:31

Hi

Section 19 is all PL OK, except for a pronunciation detail, which you have asked me to note where appropriate.

You have started in this section to award Mme de Villeparisis an extra syllable (a final i). Like Charlus and other quasi-Latin or Italianate old family names (e.g. de Médicis), it's usual to pronounce the final s - here this gives the 4 equally unstressed syllables veel-pa- ree-zeess. Even if you prefer to leave the final s unpronounced, you still say one syllable too many here, having pronounced the name correctly up to now.

If you want to revise this (which may be finicky) there are 16 examples -

@00:52 04:50 05:03 05:31 08:45 09:17 12:33 13:41 14:07 15:13 16:35 17:12 18:23 19:39 26:22 32:02 (The last example, @34:11 is OK because the extra "i" is disguised by the possessive 's.)

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Re: Eng[Solo] Within a Budding Grove by Proust - hok

Post by Tuberous Chairs » Sun 28. Oct 2012, 00:24

I hate Mme de Villeparisis. I always have to check how her name is pronounced. Sorry I got it wrong that section. I'll go back and correct it but for now here is Section 20: http://ge.tt/6tkv8NQ/v/0
33.52 mins
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Re: Eng[Solo] Within a Budding Grove by Proust - hok

Post by Martin Geeson » Sun 28. Oct 2012, 15:57

Hi

Section 20 is PL OK except for an unedited repeat of the name at 22:53 - the French text has this as "M. Molé", although my Kindle download had left off the accent in the translation.

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Re: Eng[Solo] Within a Budding Grove by Proust - hok

Post by Tuberous Chairs » Wed 7. Nov 2012, 12:42

Section 20 corrected and re-uploaded at http://ge.tt/4hBe78R
30.9MB 33.50mins

Section 21 up-loaded at http://ge.tt/1TamG8R/v/0
26.9MB 29.24mins.
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Re: Eng[Solo] Within a Budding Grove by Proust - hok

Post by Martin Geeson » Fri 9. Nov 2012, 15:19

Hi

Section 20 spot-checked; now all OK.

New Section 21 perfectly PL OK.

All the best
Martin

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