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J_N wrote:
mreyto wrote:At around 32:47, I couldn't resist singing the 4 lines FSF quotes from "The Sheik of Araby," which was a big hit in 1922 (the year the novel is set in) and remains one of the great jazz tunes of the 20th century. You'll find renditions on youtube by performers as diverse as Benny Goodman, Leon Redbone, Joanne Castle (the renowned honky-tonk pianist from the Lawrence Welk Show), Fats Domino, the Beatles, and several more. I had a lot of fun listening to them.
I am sorry, but I think, you might have to edit this... if I am not mistaken the composer was Ted Snyder and he only died in 1965, therefore the tune is not yet PD
Are you saying I shouldn't attempt to sing the lines but just speak them?
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I think, Julia means, that the melody itself is not pd. You can sing it by a tune of your own, inventing, improvisating by yourself ... :cry:
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crowwings wrote:I think, Julia means, that the melody itself is not pd. You can sing it by a tune of your own, inventing, improvisating by yourself ... :cry:
I don't mind doing that, but it's ironic that the whole song is public domain in the US because it was published in 1921 (ie, before 1923), as well as in Canada (where I live) because we're a "Life+50" country. Meanwhile, the lyrics are PD everywhere because the guy who wrote them died in 1934 :)

Just hypothetically, I wonder how one would get permission to legally record the tune in a "Life+70" country? I wonder if anyone has? I think all the covers I've heard are American. It's an interesting problem.
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Yeah, copyright is a complicated thing... (I think UK is safe as well, since they have the rule of the shorter term, or w/e it's called) but in any country strictly adhering to the death+70 law this recording would break it...

you'd have to get a so-called mechanical license... but figuring out who the current copyright holder in Europe is, would be tricky, I'd guess :) and also, you'd have to put your recordings under a different license... you cannot release a song into PD that you don't own the full rights to ;)
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Oooh that is so very complicated, sorry, that I missed that by PLing it!
Thanks Julia for pointing out!
So the less complicted way would be to change the tunes in which you sing the lines?
Your decision, Martin!
I adjusted the MW to this new development.
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Ok, I'll give The Sheik of Araby a little thought and get back to Chapter 4 shortly.

Meanwhile, here's the updated Chapter 5:

Link to file: http://upload.legamus.eu/simple/files/H ... gerald.mp3
Length: 28867724 bytes (27.530 MB) — Duration: 1804 seconds (0:30:04) — Bitrate: 128 kbps

I've updated the MW with the new filename and the changed status.
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Chap 5 spot Pl okay ..... pl okay! :D
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And here's the updated Chapter 4 (MW updated):

Link to file: http://upload.legamus.eu/simple/files/s ... gerald.mp3
Length: 35356959 bytes (33.719 MB) — Duration: 2209 seconds (0:36:49) — Bitrate: 128 kbps

There are no recording changes in the file besides the song, but I did have to re-import it into Audacity from the recording software I prefer to use (Garageband), which means the clicks that were originally there came back. I ran through the entire file removing as many as I could find with my eyes and ears, with special attention to the four you originally highlighted (and I didn't completely fix last time). If you don't mind, it might be a good idea to PL the whole thing again just to make sure it's ok from the click point of view.
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Okay, downloading
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I spot PLed all the mentioned clicks and the song part, works fine now! :D
I spot checked other random parts as well. I think, it is okay this way.

I am just wondering, why you haven't recorded the song only at your recording tool and just used Audacity for copying the song part into the already PLed old mp3-file?
This way you spare all the effort of going through the whole file again ...
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crowwings wrote:I spot PLed all the mentioned clicks and the song part, works fine now! :D
I spot checked other random parts as well. I think, it is okay this way.
That's great, thank you! I think I'm getting better at removing these clicks. I can also hear more of them than I could before. It's like my brain is adapting to the problem, which is interesting. But I'm still not hearing all of them.
I am just wondering, why you haven't recorded the song only at your recording tool and just used Audacity for copying the song part into the already PLed old mp3-file?
This way you spare all the effort of going through the whole file again ...
I tried that, but for some reason I couldn't get the song patch to match the surrounding recording seamlessly. So I thought that instead of fooling around with it for the next couple of hours and possibly get nowhere, I'd just re-import the whole recording and spend 45 minutes or so listening and fixing the clicks again.

And of course the only reason I use two audio recording programs in the first place is that each has features that the other lacks :roll:

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Chapter 6 is ready for PL:

Link to file: http://upload.legamus.eu/simple/files/Z ... gerald.mp3
Length: 27643522 bytes (26.363 MB) — Duration: 1727 seconds (0:28:47) — Bitrate: 128 kbps
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mreyto wrote: And of course the only reason I use two audio recording programs in the first place is that each has features that the other lacks  
I understand that very well. Audacity is not very reliable on a Linux system, so I use different tools, too. But on the other hand, it is open source and non-commercial, and it is a very powerful tool, nevertheless. Buggy but powerful. Just the surface might need a better usability ... ;)

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 Much better with the clicks now, you really get the hang on it! :D
just some little miswording left:
9.56 ...he would be uneasy anyhow until ... you say easy, ...not uneasy
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Here's the fixed Chapter 6 file:

Link to file: http://upload.legamus.eu/simple/files/s ... gerald.mp3
Length: 27646030 bytes (26.365 MB) — Duration: 1727 seconds (0:28:47) — Bitrate: 128 kbps

I've figured out a way to import patches into Audacity seamlessly, so it's not necessary to recheck the whole file for clicks. The only thing that's new is the phrase "But he would be uneasy anyhow until he had given them something" at the same location as before.

Just out of curiosity, may I ask what recording software you use in Linux?
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Linux: It took me quite a while to figure it out, since it is just a command-line, no graphical User Interface.
I use SOX for the recording only. Very simple. But by not using any graphical surface it is fast and very reliable!
The resulting raw wave or whatever format I chose, I import into Audacity, use a special batch for all the effects, like normalizing, noise reduction, compressor and such and the resulting mp3 file will be used for the cutting process in an even different tool on an Android system.
After the cutting, I reimport the cutted versions into Audacity again, for mp3 export again and to add the necessary intro/outro, MP3 tags and such.
That is, if I use Linux for recordings. On the Android tab I use a different recording tool and cut the raw file at the second step straight away. Afterwards I do the Audacity effects and such on the Linux OS. Cross platforming, so to speak.

Sounds a bit complicated, but I automized as many steps as possible, so it is not that bad.
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Edit: spot PL okay, ... PL OK now!
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Chapter 7 is ready for PL:

Link to file: http://upload.legamus.eu/simple/files/K ... gerald.mp3
Length: 60163254 bytes (57.376 MB) — Duration: 3760 seconds (1:02:40) — Bitrate: 128 kbps

This is the most important chapter in the book, and it's also the longest.
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Downloading
you might think about splitting the file into two parts, but better ask Viktor for that.
I would do so, because slow internet connections or such might cause problems with such large files.
But better ask Viktor, if that's necessary.
As a rule for my recordings: if a file exceeds 45 min I split it. But that are only my rules!
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There are no hard rules, it's rather a matter of personal preference. Generally though, it's advisable to split chapters or sections when they exceed one hour, and certainly when they would exceed what fits on a CD-R (74 minutes). Not all MP3 players support resuming; the longer the section, the more difficult for the listener to find the place where s/he left off.

On the other hand, you say this is the longest chapter, and it's just slightly above one hour. There is also some value if the file names and section numbers match the chapters of a book. So do as you like.

P.S. No idea what you are doing with your Audacities ;) I'm using it on GNU/Linux for more than a decade, and as I would expect after such a long time, it's nice and stable for me.
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crowwings wrote:Downloading
you might think about splitting the file into two parts, but better ask Viktor for that.
I would do so, because slow internet connections or such might cause problems with such large files.
But better ask Viktor, if that's necessary.
As a rule for my recordings: if a file exceeds 45 min I split it. But that are only my rules!
:D
The limit at LibriVox is 70 minutes, which is what fits on a single CD when the MP3 is converted to CD-audio.

I did consider splitting Chapter 7 in two, but decided against it. My impression is that SFS deliberately combined two chapters into one here so as not to break the flow of the narrative, which is intense throughout. With all the intro/outro stuff to interrupt the proceedings between sections, that becomes an even greater concern.

For people downloading, the number of bytes transmitted is the same whether it's one file or two, and if they're streaming it, the size of the file doesn't affect the speed of transmission.
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